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Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago


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RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

I originally suggested the LG Optimus 4X HD, but the kernel source code is unavailable.

I'm currently browsing through CyanogenMod's long list of supported devices, trying to find suitable ones for Replicant. I'd like to suggest more (I hope you don't mind), but I'm reluctant after seeing http://redmine.replicant.us/boards/27/topics/45 about Qualcomm platforms.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Paul Kocialkowski over 11 years ago

Generally speaking, Firefox OS devices aren't very interesting (Qualcomm platforms) and don't match our requirements. Maybe some good ones will pop up in the future, we'll see. At least the Geeksphone devices are bad.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

I changed this suggestion several times. First I suggested the Firefox OS devices, but realized that they don't have an Android kernel ported to them. Then I suggested the Motorola RAZR HD, but didn't notice that Motorola devices cannot be supported. Now the suggestion is the LG G2, a very new and popular phone, and I'd love to hear your assessment of that.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Paul Kocialkowski over 11 years ago

Well, it's a qualcomm device, so it's not good enough.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

What's wrong with Qualcomm? On the TargetsEvaluation page, it says only that it's "bad for freedom" without explaining why. Is it impossible to support such devices, or do you wish to avoid them for the sake of freedom?

To ask a further question about Motorola devices, how can you possibly install CyanogenMod on them if their bootloaders check kernel signatures? And CyanogenMod's installation instructions use ClockworkMod (which I think is free) and the SDK, and not the non-free tool you mention.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

I've just gone through CyanogenMod's full list of supported devices. Only thirteen of the 221 are potential targets for Replicant. Two require further freedom information from Richard Stallman, whom I've contacted; five depend on your answers to the questions in my previous comment. (I might have edited it since first posting it, so make sure you answer the latest version from the forum.) As expected, the remaining six are all Samsung devices.

Note: a number of devices that CyanogenMod supports do not have network connection capability (such as e-readers) but otherwise meet your criteria; are these acceptable targets for Replicant? (I did not include these in my search.)

RE: LG G2 - Added by Paul Kocialkowski over 11 years ago

Two require further freedom information from Richard Stallman, whom I've contacted

He's a very busy person, so it may be better to ask here before contacting him if the answers can be found without his help.

Note: a number of devices that CyanogenMod supports do not have network connection capability (such as e-readers) but otherwise meet your criteria; are these acceptable targets for Replicant

So far, we put the emphasis on modem-enabled devices. Though it makes sense to port to other kind of devices such as wifi-only tablets (I know the kindle fire first gen is a good target for replicant) or single board computers. So you're welcome to suggest such targets as well.

What's wrong with Qualcomm? On the TargetsEvaluation page, it says only that it's "bad for freedom" without explaining why. Is it impossible to support such devices, or do you wish to avoid them for the sake of freedom?

In the past, Qualcomm devices were known to have very bad modem isolation. It may not be true nowadays, but what remained true is that Qualcomm needs a lot of proprietary blobs and firmwares. We could however attempt a port and see how far we can get, but there are better targets out there.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

I have suggested all the devices possible. Until more official CyanogenMod ports become available, you can probably reject any more suggestions from this board.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

Like I said a few comments ago, how can you possibly install CyanogenMod on these devices if the bootloader is locked?

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

Ah, I see now. CyanogenMod's installation instructions require lots of proprietary software.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Paul Kocialkowski over 11 years ago

I have suggested all the devices possible. Until more official CyanogenMod ports become available, you can probably reject any more suggestions from this board.

Haha, well done! I still think there are some unofficial CM ports that are possible though and things may evolve. For instance the Galaxy S4 is not supported by CM, but we may want to port to it !

Like I said a few comments ago, how can you possibly install CyanogenMod on these devices if the bootloader is locked?

That depends what locked means. If a software update or a computer-side operation (without involving proprietary software) can be done to unlock it, it's fine. You're probably not aware of it, but back in HTC Dream times, one had to flash the bootloaders to be able to install Replicant!

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

I was aware of that; I've checked out all the installation instructions for Replicant-supported phones.

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

The Galaxy S4 is supported by CyanogenMod...at least eleven variants of it. Which model did you mean?

RE: LG G2 - Added by Paul Kocialkowski over 11 years ago

The Galaxy S4 is supported by CyanogenMod...at least eleven variants of it. Which model did you mean?

Yes you're right, but CyanogenMod only supports the qualcomm versions of the galaxy s4, not the international exynos ones (I9500, I9505). What I mean when I write Galaxy S[1-4] is the international version (which is the one we usually find in europe).

RE: LG G2 - Added by Linus Drumbler over 11 years ago

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Jfltexx_Info (I9505)

Unfortunately, this is a Qualcomm Snapdragon phone.

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